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Is janus linking somthing you like?
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Leet
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PostPosted: Feb 14, 2010 9:24pm    Post subject: janus Reply with quote

Hello there anyone fimiliar with the janus network link? It works like a relay relaying channels from networks but it inproves a servers stats its just like linking to a server but both sides get to keep there own services. It works like botserv relaying but it actually shows you there example

irc.convictedirc.net
irc.gigirc.net
irc.vaguememories.net

these 3 servers are linked together using janus irc but all run there own set of services. if anyone is interested in linking to are janus network please connect to irc.convictedirc.net an contact John Timmy trixar_za or squirm


Thanks. =)
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2010 3:41am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, I am going to post this as a staff representative of Chatznet/GigIRC and not as a representative of SearchIRC moderators - you have neither the authority to fish for more janus links for your network, nor the authority to approve/deny applications; both of which rest exclusively with Chatznet co-founder Squirm. Furthermore, you do not control the server running the janus linking pseudo-ircd, so why are you saying connect to <your network address here> as if it were your network resource when I assure you that couldn't be further from the truth?
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2010 11:41pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought we all had an understanding that we wanted to build a large network. I know that squirm runs the janus link i didnt see a problem with other servers wanting to join the network. Also i put all 3 of the linked server in the post not just mine i also put all our names. I made this post thinking we all had the same goal intended.
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PostPosted: Mar 08, 2010 1:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janus should be exploded. I can think of *no* situation in which having a janus link is beneficial to just having the users connect to the real server instead.
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Bertrum
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PostPosted: Mar 08, 2010 7:48am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally don't like janus links. If they was simply a trial before a actual server link was implemented then maybe I would like them, but I think permanent janus links are just a poor (easy way) to boost server stats, i've experienced them between a few different networks and all but the latest one have been a total failure. Hopefully this latest janus link works out and proves to me they can be useful.
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Trixar_za
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PostPosted: Mar 08, 2010 9:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SkydiverGoose wrote:
Janus should be exploded. I can think of *no* situation in which having a janus link is beneficial to just having the users connect to the real server instead.

I could say the same for Anope's Session Limits (and many of InspIRCd's features). Just because you can't find an use for it, doesn't make it useless.

Janus give the ability for networks to share games and resources - it's NOT just about boosting user stats, as some seem to think.

If somebody took the time to write more network protocols into it and fix it's ability to transparently link networks using different IRCd's then all this naysaying will fall flat. Networks running InspIRCd (for example) can actually enjoy games from an Unrealircd network and vice versa thanks to Janus.

PS Goose: The guy that wrote and maintains Janus is the same danieldg that works/ed on the current InspIRCd that your so fond of - so stop dissing his work!
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ButtaKnife
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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2010 10:31am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trixar_za wrote:
SkydiverGoose wrote:
Janus should be exploded. I can think of *no* situation in which having a janus link is beneficial to just having the users connect to the real server instead.

I could say the same for Anope's Session Limits (and many of InspIRCd's features). Just because you can't find an use for it, doesn't make it useless.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you saying that you don't see any benefit to session/connection limits?

Thanks in advance for clarifying!
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Trixar_za
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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2010 4:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, not within the services packages - I use UnrealIRCd's throttling at the moment (which is better in my opinion) over Anope's DEFAULT Session Limiting. Session Limiting on the Services side feels kind of redundent to me - save when it comes to defcon modes.
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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2010 2:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trixar_za wrote:
Well, not within the services packages - I use UnrealIRCd's throttling at the moment (which is better in my opinion) over Anope's DEFAULT Session Limiting. Session Limiting on the Services side feels kind of redundent to me - save when it comes to defcon modes.

On the negative side of that, Services side throttling can be used to restrict the number of connections per IP across the WHOLE network.

For example with IRCd side it's max per ip per server so global is max per ip per server times the number of servers. With services side its just a simple max per IP.

That's not to say either method is better then the other, but more that which of the 2 choices you choose depends on what you hope to achieve.
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Trixar_za
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PostPosted: Mar 12, 2010 7:50am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Jobe, I meant the connection throttling, as in 6 connections every 3 seconds over the class ip limits and throttling.

The problem comes when the IRCd and Services Session limits don't match or you need to add an exception which means you have to set two different options instead of one.
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PostPosted: May 08, 2010 7:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bertrum wrote:
I personally don't like janus links. If they was simply a trial before a actual server link was implemented then maybe I would like them, but I think permanent janus links are just a poor (easy way) to boost server stats, i've experienced them between a few different networks and all but the latest one have been a total failure. Hopefully this latest janus link works out and proves to me they can be useful.


I agree, Janus is a crappy run around to boost user stats.
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