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dayvo
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2010 8:58am    Post subject: ircd of choice for new server Reply with quote

Im setting up an ircd for a new website myself and a few mates have been working on. The main need is so we all have somewhere to meet and discuss what work needs to be done etc.. however there is a potential for website users to also use this ircd.

Ive setup a few ircd's and services before, but i would probably put myself in the beginner stage, as all i did really was compile and configure 'to get it going'.. i didnt really tweek anything to get the best performance.

Anyhows.. i was wondering if people could make a few suggestions of a good reliable ircd, with good services support?

CentOS 5.4 | Dedicated.

Many thanks..
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2010 12:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will scream shout and holler all day long:

* Inspircd (1.2 or 2.0, even though 2.0 is beta, it's stable)
* Atheme IRC Services

Inspircd offers so many modules it's ridiculous, it's loaded with features, incredibly stable and efficient, and very easy to use.
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2010 2:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be wrong not to mention Nefarious IRCd (IRCu based) with X3 or Charybdis IRCd (or any other Bahamut based IRCds) with Atheme.

It depends on what your needs will be, what you will wish to run with your IRCd and how flexible you want it to be. Don't just settle for the default UnrealIRCd with Anope just because the majority of other networks uses it.

The only time you should consider using UnrealIRCd is if you want to spend a lot of time linking with alot of smaller and newer networks or your using software that works JUST with UnrealIRCd (rare these days, but does happen). Even then you can still pick to use Atheme, Anope or even IRC Services as your new services package.

So play around with them and decide on the one that works best for you.

EDIT: These wikipedia comparison links might help you decide:
Comparing IRCds
Comparing Services Packages
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2010 7:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My preference in ircd would be Inspircd, the fact it is modular wins in my opinion. Services, well i've only ever used anope myself, but have never had problems to be honest..
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PostPosted: Mar 05, 2010 2:30am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but Anope doesn't support SASL!
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PostPosted: Mar 05, 2010 5:41am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad don't shout at me goose or ill direct a ban at u i my next forum post in the ban game Sad
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PostPosted: Mar 05, 2010 2:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bertrum :Ban for make open threats and not asking me to join in on the fun...
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PostPosted: Mar 05, 2010 3:24pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bertrum wrote:
My preference in ircd would be Inspircd, the fact it is modular wins in my opinion. Services, well i've only ever used anope myself, but have never had problems to be honest..

Being modular to the point of breaking it when compatible modules aren't loaded for linking servers isnt' a plus - not to mention you can unload server critical models before starting the IRCd.

Even Icarus IRCd (Unreal based) has a similar modular design, so I don't see why being modular to the point of breaking it is a plus though Razz
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PostPosted: Mar 06, 2010 11:19am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the point of breaking it? Please reword
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2010 1:46am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SkydiverGoose wrote:
To the point of breaking it? Please reword

It's just that one thing that always bothered me about InspIRCd. The fact that you can unload modules critical to the operation of the IRCd. They've pretty much sacrificed everything else that is good about the IRCd JUST so it could be completely modular - to the very point of breaking the IRCd if certain modules are unloaded. This is NOT a plus in an IRCd, nor is it desirable. They should have left the critical set of modules protected and loaded by default with no option to remove them at all.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2010 2:14am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trixar_za wrote:
SkydiverGoose wrote:
To the point of breaking it? Please reword

It's just that one thing that always bothered me about InspIRCd. The fact that you can unload modules critical to the operation of the IRCd. They've pretty much sacrificed everything else that is good about the IRCd JUST so it could be completely modular - to the very point of breaking the IRCd if certain modules are unloaded. This is NOT a plus in an IRCd, nor is it desirable. They should have left the critical set of modules protected and loaded by default with no option to remove them at all.
By that logic, then, said critical modules should not have been modules at all and instead hardcoded into the core
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2010 2:22am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PingBad wrote:
By that logic, then, said critical modules should not have been modules at all and instead hardcoded into the core

Exactly! Hell, I know some people (including you) that would be on that like a fat kid on a cupcake - and in both cases it's not pretty.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2010 2:24am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, you mean I'd break it without trying (such as that spectacular episode with Analogue)?
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2010 7:24am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I did it myself and accidentally. Say you get a noob that wants to start without ANY modules loaded - well you can't do that with InspIRCd because it WILL break or atleast act very strangely...

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying InspIRCd is crap - in fact it's the opposite and pretty powerful if you put in the time to configure it up properly.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2010 10:27am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IRCu+IRCm

IRCm (IRC MeeX) is a P10 Internet Relay Chat Server Daemon (IRCD) based on Undernets IRCu2.10.12 branch of Universal IRCD
The IRCm Project was forged as a chance to update many old IRCu2 patches to the U2.10.12 standard plus integrate a few other non-stock IRCu features from other IRCD's / IRCu2 variants such as Asuka, Lain, Boxen & Nefarious
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