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arrquko
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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2004 11:00pm    Post subject: Network looking for staff. Reply with quote

Pyrosphere IRC is looking for staff that are qualified to use Unreal IRCD and anope services.

Pyrosphere was down for about a month due to lack of staff to help with the upkeep of the server and services. Im hoping We can get enough staff to help with the server and services.


If your interested please e-mail Sparky@pyrosphere.org


Thank you. Smile
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 1:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you should just link your unreal server (which, btw, has *ZERO* users on it when I checked) to an existing network?

Submit to the rules of some existing admins, who are probably more experienced then you are..... you might learn something...... and actually have some users.

-Ashen
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gtpnos
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2004 8:52pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Maybe you should just link your unreal server (which, btw, has *ZERO* users on it when I checked) to an existing network?

Submit to the rules of some existing admins, who are probably more experienced then you are..... you might learn something...... and actually have some users.

-Ashen


wow that's pretty harsh, what network do you run?
-gtpnos
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arrquko
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2004 10:28pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been running ircds on linux for 10 years now.

I have heard and been called worse.

It goes in one ear and out the other.

Btw All servers dont start out with alot of people.

Thats why it takes dedication and time.
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Michael
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PostPosted: Jan 19, 2004 10:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Maybe you should just link your unreal server (which, btw, has *ZERO* users on it when I checked) to an existing network?

Submit to the rules of some existing admins, who are probably more experienced then you are..... you might learn something...... and actually have some users.

-Ashen

At least he/she has something you don't: professionalism.
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gtpnos
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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2004 12:54am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maybe you should just link your unreal server (which, btw, has *ZERO* users on it when I checked) to an existing network?

Submit to the rules of some existing admins, who are probably more experienced then you are..... you might learn something...... and actually have some users.

-Ashen

At least he/she has something you don't: professionalism.


What was your point with that?
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PostPosted: Feb 07, 2004 3:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it narks me when I see countless irc networks of less then 10 users asking for links/staff/users.
I just don't understand why, given such a small network, these people do not simply form a small channel on an existing network.
There are channels with upwards of 1,500 clients in them..... where is the need for only 10 users to have their own network?
It seems like everyone wants a piece of their own turf to lord over, and no-one is just content to be a user on a bigger network.

I just don't get it. Why would a user want to start their own network? There seems no reason for it other then "because I can!".
I find that the most successful networks are ones that start with a substantial userbase. For example, if you are starting a
network, your FIRST task should be to find one, preferably several, channels with over 30 users in them that would be definately
interested in switching over to your network. If you can't find these, then your network is probably not needed, and you'd be
better off just having a channel on an existing network, as at least that way your channel would get used, rather then,
as I have found on some of the networks pointed to by this forum, there being large stretches of time where the server exists,
but is devoid of any users whatsoever apart from services clients.

Please, if you are considering starting a network, don't do so unless you have at least:
1) At least one, but preferably 3 or more, decent spec servers ready. (by decent spec, I mean dedicated boxes that are on T1 or
better connections to the net... no windows machines, no home adsl/dsl connections.)
2) At least 100 users and at least 3 channels that would definately use your network.
3) At least 3-5 members of admin staff whom you trust to run the network, without having to use unrealircd or auspice to limit
'oper abuse' becuase you are giving O:lines to anyone who links to you becuase you need the servers/users.
4) At least one thing that no-one else has. Something that makes your content unique and valuable... beyond
"a safe and friendly place to chat". Something that makes you different, something chatters can't get anywhere else.
A good example is http://www.knightirc.net/
5) A few years of experience being an operator on a network with over 1000 users. This will show you how irc networks run,
what issues crop up, how things are done, and will generally clue you up and give you valuable experience in how to run a network.

I don't have any problem with serious admins who do actually start their own small networks and put in the time and effort to
fuel their growth into something that has over 500 users on average and does bring something to the irc community.

All the tiny, 1-100 user networks who'se desc runs along the lines of "providing a safe and friendly place to chat on the internet"
and are generally indistinguishable from every other small network, are not helpful to irc chatters becuase they spread people out.
Such numbers of small networks creates a hundred individual #linux channels with 1-20 users in them rather then one BIG #linux channel
with 200 people in it, who really know what they're talking about. I use #linux here as an example, but it works for most any channel
you can name.

In short, It's good if some people start servers/networks, but it's bad if everyone and their dog does.



-AW
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SiD
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PostPosted: Feb 07, 2004 6:04pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like small networks, I think they enhance IRC not detract from it. I run a small network with a small amount of regular chatters, I offer safe friendly chat. My goal isn't to become the next DalNet, my goal is simply for the network to be up and running for anyone who chooses to connect now, tomorrow or next year.
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SiD
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PostPosted: Feb 07, 2004 6:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:


In short, It's good if some people start servers/networks, but it's bad if everyone and their dog does.

-AW


BTW if you know a network started by a someone's dog, let me know. Chatting on his network would be interesting. Wink
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al5001
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PostPosted: Feb 26, 2004 2:11am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jarkko Oikarinen, the one whom created IRC.

Quote:
When you created IRC, what was the maximum number of
users at the same time that you made allowance for? -- Run

It was not that well planned, but perhaps somewhere around 100 users. -- Jarkko



Who says IRC servers need to have 1000+ users? Certainly not the creator of IRC.
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