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DragonRyder
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PostPosted: Dec 06, 2008 12:25pm    Post subject: still having email issues Reply with quote

i have checked MX records.
i have checked POP records.
i have checked SMTP records.

i had the hosting service www.Virt-Host.com setup the email to send me everything no matter what it is. nothing and i do mean nothing gets blocked.

my old network Maximum-IRC even shows some of my current shells i use:
SearchIRC of Maximum-IRC

all i am trying to do is get an updated account with my new network name.

when i submitted my network this last time, i gave both my email address.

ryu@xeromem.com
ryu.dragonryder@gmail.com

i have not gotten an email in either one.

can any mods please help me resolve this issue as i would really like to get my network added to searchirc.

thanks
Ryu
XeroMem Network Owner
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Jason
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PostPosted: Dec 06, 2008 12:45pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maillog shows nothing containing "dragonr"

I show an unsuccessful delivery from Nov 8th:
to=<ryu@www.xeromem.com>, stat=User unknown

Today I show a few errors to that address:

Dec 6 11:51:41 STARTTLS=client, relay=www.xeromem.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=AES256-SHA, bits=256/256

Dec 6 11:51:41 to=<Ryu@www.xeromem.com>, relay=www.xeromem.com. stat=Deferred: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later

You're the only one listed in mailq, so I assume it's isolated to your server.
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DragonRyder
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PostPosted: Dec 06, 2008 12:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ryu.dragonryder@gmail.com was what i put in the second admin slot, since it wouldn't let me put it in the main one, as everything that goes to ryu@xeromem.com gets forwarded there.

i am showing my hoster this posting and letting him see whats going on as he also has access to my domain.
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JohnM
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PostPosted: Dec 07, 2008 9:53am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason,

I've been working with DragonRyder on this issue for quite some time. He's indicated that he's tried everything he could, and I've suggested he do other things as well. The portion of your maillog you've shown represents the exact cause of the issue.

The domain your server is trying to email includes the third-level (www) while the e-mail server only recognizes the second level. This could be an issue with the form submission, or it could be an issue with your server. For clarification, the e-mail should not go to the www address, but instead directl to xeromem. I'd elaborate a bit more, but because I've just registered, I'm unable to post anything resembling a URL.

If you have any quesitons, feel free to e-mail me directly. I've set this to auto-notify on response, so I'll get your comments here as well.

Thank you,

-John
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Jason
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PostPosted: Dec 07, 2008 3:13pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, looks like your email is misconfigured.


[root@dionysus ~]# echo "test" | mail ryu@xeromem.com

Dec 7 16:11:21 from=root, size=26, class=0, nrcpts=1, relay=root@localhost
Dec 7 16:11:21 to=ryu@xeromem.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30026, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (mB7LBLoA003357 Message accepted for delivery)
Dec 7 16:11:22 STARTTLS=client, relay=www.xeromem.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=AES256-SHA, bits=256/256
Dec 7 16:11:22 to=<ryu@www.xeromem.com>, ctladdr=<root@dionysus.searchirc.com> (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=120326, relay=www.xeromem.com. [93.174.93.10], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later
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Jason
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PostPosted: Dec 07, 2008 3:14pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

# dig mx xeromem.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.4-P1 <<>> mx xeromem.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48292
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;xeromem.com. IN MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
xeromem.com. 3407 IN CNAME www.xeromem.com.
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DragonRyder
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PostPosted: Dec 07, 2008 5:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if my email is "misconfigured" then how exactly am i getting emails from everyone else except you?
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Jason
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PostPosted: Dec 07, 2008 7:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea. On the other hand, out of the thousands of emails sent daily, you're the only one with an issue :)

You have your xeromem.com domain as a CNAME (alias) to www.xeromem.com. So if you aren't configured to receive email at www.xeromem.com, this might be the problem.

I don't dig too much into email issues since I set it up once and it just runs usually.
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DragonRyder
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PostPosted: Dec 08, 2008 12:02am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just to see if things are "misconfigured" i changed:

@ www.xeromem.com cname

to

@ xeromem.com cname

and still no email from your site.
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Jason
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PostPosted: Dec 08, 2008 6:04pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

; <<>> DiG 9.3.4-P1 <<>> mx xeromem.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54199
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;xeromem.com. IN MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
xeromem.com. 3600 IN MX 10 mail.xeromem.com.

;; Query time: 94 msec
;; SERVER: 208.67.220.220#53(208.67.220.220)
;; WHEN: Mon Dec 8 19:02:36 2008
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 50


...


Dec 8 19:03:09 STARTTLS=client, relay=mail.xeromem.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256
Dec 8 19:03:10 to=<ryu@xeromem.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=120322, relay=mail.xeromem.com. [217.160.247.201], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (ok 1228780990 qp 20944)


Looks like it works
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JohnM
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PostPosted: Dec 08, 2008 6:11pm    Post subject: *Sighs* Reply with quote

You know.. One of these days, I'll learn to tell my clients to stop using other dns management systems. Had the domain been set up through the Control Panel I provide, there would never have been this issue. I've gone in directly and modified the clients' dns settings as managed through their registrar. I've corrected what should never have been done, and addressed this on more than one level. At this time, you should be able to access and send e-mails to xeromem [dot] com without any issues. To test this, I've issued the exact same commands you issued with the following output (from a second server):

REMOVED -- your anti-URL wouldn't let me post it, which is kinda odd since there weren't any URLs in it...

DragonRyder, you should now be able to register with SearchIRC with ease. Jason, thank you for assisting and pointing this issue out to me. I'll handle this conversation with my client directly from this point forward. Should you have any questions, comments, or concerns, please let me know.

Thank you,

-John
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DragonRyder
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PostPosted: Dec 08, 2008 7:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks John - i thought i had set it the way i was supposed to, i now see what i did wrong.

thanks jason for bearing with me.

12.08.08 7:44pm XeroMem Waiting to be processed
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DragonRyder
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PostPosted: Dec 09, 2008 7:10am    Post subject: being processed Reply with quote

about how long does the process step take?
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EcKstasy
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PostPosted: Dec 10, 2008 9:50pm    Post subject: Re: being processed Reply with quote

DragonRyder wrote:
about how long does the process step take?


Quote:
Submission process:

* SearchIRC's initial submission process is automated. We run a script that compares the name of your network to those we already have listed, and then we check if the web page and rr is operational. After that, your submission moves to a human editor who visits the network and website. We confirm that the network website is indeed about the network and its services, and not, for example, the company that hosts the network. We check the network to be sure it is unique and not yet listed on SearchIRC, and server information is accurate and will work well with SearchIRC's data gathering code. If we see something that raises questions we will go back and visit the network again, or even a third time. Depending on factors such as the volume of submissions, it may take a week or more before your submission is approved. Networks are usually added on the weekend. If a network you submitted has not been listed after three weeks, you may submit it again or you may use our contact for to ask about its status.
* If a network is rejected we strongly encourage them to correct whatever problem prevents us from listing the network, and resubmit.
* However, persistent or automated submissions are another thing all together, and may force us to ban you from SearchIRC.
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