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aquanight
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PostPosted: Oct 18, 2004 9:15pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a difference.

Here's a sample to illistruate the point:

The alias used:
Code:
/amsg /echo -a Hi


Now normally, /amsg is the command to send a message to all channels you are on.

If I type /amsg Hello, it merely outputs hi in my active window.

If I type /quote amsg Hello:
[21:14:33] -> Server: amsg Hello
amsg Unknown command

If type /!amsg Hello, I see <aquanight> Hello in all channel windows, indicating I said Hello in all channels, the normal behavior of /amsg.

Now, can we get back on topic? Razz

*edit @ moderators* In my previous post, can someone change the [/quote] to [/code] ?
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Wlfpck
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PostPosted: Oct 26, 2004 7:49pm    Post subject: yes plz Reply with quote

Yes plz can we get back on topic? Remember I would like the irc client to be free.
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katsklaw
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PostPosted: Oct 26, 2004 7:57pm    Post subject: Re: yes plz Reply with quote

Wlfpck wrote:
Yes plz can we get back on topic? Remember I would like the irc client to be free.


Since you have payed for mIRC it's free from now on, you have already said your using mIRC .. I don't recall seeing anything in this thread about any features that you need/want that mIRC can't do .. so it seems to me you already have what you need.
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Wlfpck
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2004 3:33pm    Post subject: well Reply with quote

I wanted a client in which the script could be loaded and unloaded easily. Not like mIRC where the script is saved in the file mirc.ini. I want a client where the script is a separate file. This way you can have many scripts on your computer and you can choose which ones to load.
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magpie
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2004 5:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Er....mIRC does support this. RTFM.
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zeke
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PostPosted: Nov 02, 2004 9:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is true...all that mirc.ini does is hold the settings for mIRC, including (but far from limited to) the nick settings, the ident settings, what your misc mIRC options are, and what alias, popup, and remote script files are to be loaded next time mIRC is started. the scripts themselves are seperate again.
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ORenyRen
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2004 1:01am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so it's established that mIRC has a shitty language used for programming and there are an infinite amount of clients with better langauges to use for scripting.
It's was established that using mIRC after the 30 day evaluation trial-period is considered, by some, stealing.
A bunch of other stuff was pointed out and noted through-out the 11 pages of this chat, at least 8 or 9 pages of which are unrelated to the topic.
So... if you use Mozilla or FireFox, have you ever tried ChatZilla?
Unless you rely heavily on scripting and DCC, I don't think that anyone should have any majorproblems with ChatZilla. Best of all, CZ is donationsware, so you don't have to pay for anything. The people who code the client do listen to peoples suggestions and have incoporated some of them into the release. Another thing, this is the smallest client that I have ever seen. Compare not even 1/2 a megabyte to over 5 megabytes. Am I saying that this is the perfect client? No, just look at bugzilla, it has over 100 bugs/enancements (more than half are enhancements) listed for ChatZilla. I'm just saying that if you use Mozilla/FireFox, that you hould give CZ a chance. It's a fairly self-explanitory, easy to use client.
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2004 10:38am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard about ChatZilla but i have never used it but i will be checking it out and drawing my own conclusions. Thanks for the tip-off :P
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katsklaw
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2004 12:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ORenyRen wrote:
Ok, so it's established that mIRC has a shitty language used for programming and there are an infinite amount of clients with better langauges to use for scripting.
It's was established that using mIRC after the 30 day evaluation trial-period is considered, by some, stealing.
A bunch of other stuff was pointed out and noted through-out the 11 pages of this chat, at least 8 or 9 pages of which are unrelated to the topic.
So... if you use Mozilla or FireFox, have you ever tried ChatZilla?
Unless you rely heavily on scripting and DCC, I don't think that anyone should have any majorproblems with ChatZilla. Best of all, CZ is donationsware, so you don't have to pay for anything. The people who code the client do listen to peoples suggestions and have incoporated some of them into the release. Another thing, this is the smallest client that I have ever seen. Compare not even 1/2 a megabyte to over 5 megabytes. Am I saying that this is the perfect client? No, just look at bugzilla, it has over 100 bugs/enancements (more than half are enhancements) listed for ChatZilla. I'm just saying that if you use Mozilla/FireFox, that you hould give CZ a chance. It's a fairly self-explanitory, easy to use client.


lol, ok .. and after this 3-4 paragraph summary of this thread, which you are correct about and I wouldn't argue it .. but recommending Chatzilla which you self admitted indirectly shouldn't be for those that needs scripting (which the original author admitted several times thought the same 11 pages he needed). which would make your contribution as useless as the 8-9 pages arguing off topic. Very Happy Welcome to the club!
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Wlfpck
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2004 3:01pm    Post subject: hm Reply with quote

I will try chatzilla but has anyone noticed that besirc 2.1 will never be released?
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codemastr
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2004 3:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried chatzilla, I really don't like it. First off, it is very, very ugly. It looks like it was written in HTML. And it just has strange things, like why does it show the nicklist in a query window?

It may be the "smallest client," but because of that, it lacks many (much more than just scripting) features that other clients have. Theme systems, customizable interfaces, highlighting, and many other things that other clients have.

Honestly though, I find it shocking that it doesn't support scripting since the client is written in Javascript! I mean, how hard would it be to add javascript scripting support?
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Wlfpck
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2004 3:05pm    Post subject: hm Reply with quote

so what scripting languages are used for ICe chat, or Visual IRC, vortec IRC
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codemastr
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2004 7:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
so what scripting languages are used for ICe chat, or Visual IRC, vortec IRC

It's usually a good idea to do some searching yourself before asking such questions, that information is right on the respective websites!

Ice Chat uses VB Script
Vortec IRC uses Delphi/Pascal scripting
Visual IRC uses it's own scripting language
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aquanight
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2004 7:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

codemastr wrote:
Visual IRC uses it's own scripting language


Visual IRC also claims to have support for ActiveX scripting. I once tried to go see what that was all about, then started it up and remembered why I hated it Smile . Not because of the scripting language, but because the user interface and documentation left much to be desired :/ . So I didn't get a chance to play with that...
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Snerf
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PostPosted: Nov 23, 2004 4:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IceChat5's uses VB Script, which leaves a little to be desired, as most people cant make any sense of VBS.
So, the new version (Icechat6) will have a new script language, much better suited for IRC, easier to use as well.
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