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| What is the best internet browser for windows? |
| Chrome |
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31% |
[ 5 ] |
| Firefox |
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56% |
[ 9 ] |
| Internet Explorer |
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6% |
[ 1 ] |
| Opera |
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6% |
[ 1 ] |
| Safari |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Sea Monkey |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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Trixar_za
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 Posted: Jul 01, 2010 3:55pm Post subject: |
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No, IE gets a bad rap because of these traits:
1. It STILL uses a (partial) CSS 1 only engine - most modern browsers support CSS 1, CSS 2 and partial CSS 3. IE takes the MOST work with 'fixes' just to make the template work for it. Don't believe me? Ever checked MediaWiki's CSS files? There are 5 of 20kb or more each JUST for IE. Nuff said.
2. ActiveX - it's worse than javascript and even more insecure.
3. Own tags for some things (MS trying to set some standards again). <imbed></imbed> anyway?
4. It's badly written from the get go and MS screwed the original designers out of it. So they got what they paid for - which means IE gets screwed alot.
5. NO pop-up defense - you need to install external programs to get this feature that you get in all other browsers
Why use it at all if you can just use something that works like Firefox? |
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katsklaw
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Joined: 28 Jun 2004
Posts: 1614
Location: Somewhere you're not.
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| Posted: Jul 02, 2010 12:16am Post subject: |
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everything has pros and cons, even your beloved FF. It's just up to the individual to choose which set of pros/cons they can accept.
It's funny that you mention CSS and stuff, since IE is the only browser I have that correctly renders SearchIRC. Go figure.
uhm, IE7+ does have a popup blocker. It's even enabled by default. Perhaps you should blame the sites you visit for trying to violate your privacy instead of the browser you use. I've never had a popup problem, nor have I ever needed a 3rd party blocker. Maybe you should try blocking 3rd party cookies too. Another trick SITES use, not the browser.
Anyway, I'm not defending solely IE, all browsers have flaws .. ALL of them.
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PingBad
Post Whore
Joined: 05 Feb 2005
Posts: 3027
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Jul 02, 2010 12:33am Post subject: |
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| katsklaw wrote: | | It's funny that you mention CSS and stuff, since IE is the only browser I have that correctly renders SearchIRC. Go figure. |
I use FF 3.6, and SIRC renders perfectly - every time. Chrome, Safari, Epiphany and most non-gecko browsers I have used manage to fsck it up in one way or another (Trident being a notable exception).
That said, as a developer who's work revolves heavily around CSS and html elements, IE manages to completely screw any well-formed layout (60% of the stylesheets I've had to code has been an utter necessity to do workarounds in IE's - more accurately, Trident's - shortcomings) |
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Bertrum
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Joined: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 573
Location: Venus
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| Posted: Jul 02, 2010 8:41am Post subject: |
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| PingBad wrote: | | I use FF 3.6, and SIRC renders perfectly |
Same here |
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Trixar_za
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Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 624
Location: South Africa
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| Posted: Jul 02, 2010 9:34am Post subject: |
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| katsklaw wrote: | everything has pros and cons, even your beloved FF. It's just up to the individual to choose which set of pros/cons they can accept.
It's funny that you mention CSS and stuff, since IE is the only browser I have that correctly renders SearchIRC. Go figure.
uhm, IE7+ does have a popup blocker. It's even enabled by default. Perhaps you should blame the sites you visit for trying to violate your privacy instead of the browser you use. I've never had a popup problem, nor have I ever needed a 3rd party blocker. Maybe you should try blocking 3rd party cookies too. Another trick SITES use, not the browser.
Anyway, I'm not defending solely IE, all browsers have flaws .. ALL of them.
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IE is STILL the only web browsers NOT TO SUPPORT CSS 2 (not even mentioning CSS 3) and it requires the most fixes when you design websites. It also still the most insecure because of ActiveX and it's still non-standards compliant compared to any other browsers. It's not only flawed, it's falling apart because of them. period. It makes ANY other browser look better by comparison. |
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SuperPC
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Joined: 04 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Jul 04, 2010 4:07pm Post subject: |
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| katsklaw wrote: | everything has pros and cons, even your beloved FF. It's just up to the individual to choose which set of pros/cons they can accept.
It's funny that you mention CSS and stuff, since IE is the only browser I have that correctly renders SearchIRC. Go figure.
uhm, IE7+ does have a popup blocker. It's even enabled by default. Perhaps you should blame the sites you visit for trying to violate your privacy instead of the browser you use. I've never had a popup problem, nor have I ever needed a 3rd party blocker. Maybe you should try blocking 3rd party cookies too. Another trick SITES use, not the browser.
Anyway, I'm not defending solely IE, all browsers have flaws .. ALL of them.
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Don't defend IE at all. Period. |
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katsklaw
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Joined: 28 Jun 2004
Posts: 1614
Location: Somewhere you're not.
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| Posted: Jul 05, 2010 8:23pm Post subject: |
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| SuperPC wrote: | | katsklaw wrote: | everything has pros and cons, even your beloved FF. It's just up to the individual to choose which set of pros/cons they can accept.
It's funny that you mention CSS and stuff, since IE is the only browser I have that correctly renders SearchIRC. Go figure.
uhm, IE7+ does have a popup blocker. It's even enabled by default. Perhaps you should blame the sites you visit for trying to violate your privacy instead of the browser you use. I've never had a popup problem, nor have I ever needed a 3rd party blocker. Maybe you should try blocking 3rd party cookies too. Another trick SITES use, not the browser.
Anyway, I'm not defending solely IE, all browsers have flaws .. ALL of them.
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Don't defend IE at all. Period. |
I'll defend what I wish. You'll also get a lot farther here on SIRC if you stop bossing people around, Period. |
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Bertrum
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Joined: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 573
Location: Venus
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| Posted: Jul 06, 2010 6:47pm Post subject: |
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| Periods, period. |
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yNGriD
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Joined: 20 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sep 20, 2010 8:15pm Post subject: |
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i'm still on Firefox..
though crome is nice too but it has lot of errors like it can't open yahoo homepage..
so i prefer Firefox.. especially when doing website..
very nice.. unlike IE it always have unsupported features..
better stick to Firefox..
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Bertrum
Eleet
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Location: Venus
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| Posted: Sep 21, 2010 7:52am Post subject: |
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| Well I have chose Firefox as my default browser, honestly, in my opinion, nothing compares to it. However, I have noticed it cocks up a bit when playing online games, so Chrome comes to the rescue.. |
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