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Yarcanox
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Joined: 10 Oct 2006
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 Posted: Sep 09, 2009 6:37pm Post subject: User count stays zero - but channels are indexed properly |
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Hi.
There seem to be some indexing problems with:
http://searchirc.com/network/Eloxoph
The channels are indexed just fine (the bot also seems to successfully connects multiple times of the day to index), but the user graph always shows 0 users which obviously isn't correct. |
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Trixar_za
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Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 613
Location: South Africa
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| Posted: Sep 10, 2009 2:39am Post subject: |
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I see you use a customly written IRCd (WeIRCd), so the issue might be the wrong string or raw numeric when it comes to the /LUSERS command.
Here is how UnrealIRCd handles it:
| Code: | >> :server.here.com 251 Trixar_za :There are 13 users and 17 invisible on 5 servers
>> :server.here.com 252 Trixar_za 4 :operator(s) online
>> :server.here.com 254 Trixar_za 18 :channels formed
>> :server.here.com 255 Trixar_za :I have 7 clients and 3 servers
>> :server.here.com 265 Trixar_za :Current Local Users: 7 Max: 18
>> :server.here.com 266 Trixar_za :Current Global Users: 30 Max: 38 |
I don't really think it matters how it's formated server side, but more to do with how the strings are structured and/or the raw numerics used.
I could be wrong however, so any IRCd writers or the Bot runners on SIRC should correct me on this if I'm way off base here.
EDIT: Ok, so I went to check out your server, only major difference in your /lusers command is that you use lower case global users and local users instead of Global Users and Local Users and that you're missing the channels formed bit:
| Code: | >> :your.server.com 251 Trixar_za :There are 10 users on 1 servers
>> :your.server.com 252 Trixar_za 1 :operator(s) online
>> :your.server.com 255 Trixar_za :I have 10 clients and 1 servers
>> :your.server.com 265 Trixar_za :Current local users: 10 Max: 16
>> :your.server.com 266 Trixar_za :Current global users: 10 Max: 16 |
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Yarcanox
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| Posted: Sep 10, 2009 6:24am Post subject: |
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Yea, that might be part of the problem. Still, I didn't think I changed so much that an intelligent parser wouldn't be able to deal with it anymore. But of course things can always break when unexpected things come in. Whatever breaks it, I can't really find out and that's why I made this post to address the people who can (hopefully  ). |
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Trixar_za
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Joined: 10 Dec 2006
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Location: South Africa
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| Posted: Sep 10, 2009 9:24am Post subject: |
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| Yarcanox wrote: | | Yea, that might be part of the problem. Still, I didn't think I changed so much that an intelligent parser wouldn't be able to deal with it anymore. But of course things can always break when unexpected things come in. Whatever breaks it, I can't really find out and that's why I made this post to address the people who can (hopefully ). |
As I understand it, the irc crawler bots use the /links, /lusers and /list commands extensively, although it may also use /version with some (or just check the 001-005 numerical lines after it connects  ), so they also depend heavily on them being as close to RFC specification as possible. Going on the RFC, there is nothing wrong with your replies except that you lack the 254 numeric reply, which is the one about channels.
Case shouldn't matter with an intelligent parser, but the lack of certain data just might be what's causing this error. Maybe by adding in the channel numerical reply, you will find that it's suddenly outputing the graphs correctly, because it required both user and channel counts to output it at all.
Call it an educated guess on my part. OK OK, call it more "I can break (and have broken) anything and everything on IRC" kind of guess... |
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Yarcanox
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| Posted: Sep 10, 2009 9:43am Post subject: |
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Wow seems like you were actually right  awesome!! |
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bctrainers
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Joined: 11 Mar 2005
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Location: Kansas City, KS
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| Posted: Sep 11, 2009 5:20am Post subject: |
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Interesting, our IRCd has this in the output of /lusers...
| Code: | 251 bc :There are 0 users and 90 invisible on 10 servers
252 bc 20 :operators online
254 bc 112 :channels formed
255 bc :I have 12 clients and 3 servers
265 bc :Current local users: 12 Max: 43
266 bc :Current global users: 90 Max: 116
NOTICE bc :Highest connection count: 18 (15 users) (625 connections total) |
Works just fine here with the LeTTeR CaPItaLs stuff. |
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Trixar_za
Eleet
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Location: South Africa
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| Posted: Sep 11, 2009 5:46am Post subject: |
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| bctrainers wrote: | Interesting, our IRCd has this in the output of /lusers...
| Code: | 251 bc :There are 0 users and 90 invisible on 10 servers
252 bc 20 :operators online
254 bc 112 :channels formed
255 bc :I have 12 clients and 3 servers
265 bc :Current local users: 12 Max: 43
266 bc :Current global users: 90 Max: 116
NOTICE bc :Highest connection count: 18 (15 users) (625 connections total) |
Works just fine here with the LeTTeR CaPItaLs stuff. |
Yeah, seems it was more the missing raw numerical reply 254 (channels formed reply) of the /lusers command that was causing the trouble rather than the case of the words.
I guess that's where the parser grabs the channel count to generate the channel line in the graphs. Without it the parser was missing half it's data and just didn't output at all. |
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