spamming other networks

Wolf-Man-Jack · none Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 31 Location: usa

my network ad staff will not spamm any network if they do they will be dealt with if a chatter goes and spamms your network we dont have any control on a chatter doings the spamming its there own doing not mine

greg27 · Idler Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 255 Location: Australia

EcKstasy · Lurker Joined: 23 May 2008 Posts: 178

Wolf-Man-Jack · none Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 31 Location: usa

hey ecktasy how ya been it ws someonesaying that my opers were spamming there networks i just was lettng the person on here that i know comes here that we dont spam others nets work and it was a chatter who did it we didnt know they did it until someone came and told us thats all i was doing is to let him or her know that we dobnt spam other nets

upinsmoke · Posted: Dec 30, 2008 1:08am Post subject: spam

i received spam message via email from this network. with an interesting header

Trixar_za · Posted: Dec 30, 2008 10:12am Post subject: Re: spam

Wolf-Man-Jack · none Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 31 Location: usa

i just like to inform all here that spamming is when u sell stuff to ppl letting -ppl know of a new server isnt spamming they r not selling the server its free of charge so you got an email letting ppl know of a new network isnt spamming look it up its on line

Wolf-Man-Jack · none Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 31 Location: usa

Why do people send Spam? ... ?
Spam is the electronic equivalent of junk email. People send Spam in order to sell products and services or to promote an email scam. Some Spam is purely ideological, sent by purveyors of thought. The bulk of Spam is intended, however, to draw traffic to web sites or to sell other money making schemes. Unlike junk mail in your physical mailbox, Spam does not abate if it is unsuccessful. When marketing departments send junk mail at a considerable expense, without success, they generally cease, or try a different sales pitch. Spam on the other hand can be entirely unsuccessful, but the large number of wannabe spammers waiting in the wings ensures that we will continue to receive lots of it. Spammers go to considerable effort to thwart recipients' attempts to stop spam email. They specifically design their emails to bypass your email spam filter. This can be shown by using special characters like '@' rather then the letter 'A' in words though the spam email.

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How can I tell who the Spam is from? ... ?
Normally you cannot. Spam control can become very sophisticated. more experienced users can look at the email 'headers' to find the origin of the message, but frequently the spammer will set up a one-time email account purely to initiate the spam email shot. When the email shot is finished, the account is closed. At other times, the spammer will forge headers making it difficult or impossible to trace the origin of the Spam, so finding the original sender will very often prove fruitless. Spam protection and junk email prevention require more subtle measures than just finding the culprit.

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How do spammers get my email address? ... ?
Through many means. Some companies you may have had dealings with sell their mailing lists to third parties, spammers included. Spammers also use 'robots' to scour the Internet and harvest any email addresses that they may find. if you post to newsgroups you are also at the risk of spammers picking up your email address and sending you junk email. To get adequate spam protection and get rid of Spam, you really need more than one email address. This is an essential element of Spam control.

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If I unsubscribe won't the spam stop? ... ?
If you didn't have to subscribe to get it, there is little chance that unsubscribing will get rid of Spam. Professional spammer use this trick to validate their email address list. They buy or steal lists sometimes containing millions of email addresses. Large percentages of these addresses may be invalid. By unsubscribing to the list, you are informing the spammer that your email address is a good one (its valid and used by you), and may be sold on to other spammers. Be prepared for more Spam, from many more sources. A better alternative would be to try blocking Spam, or to bounce Spam email using specialized email software.

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Isn't Spam illegal ... ?
Clearly Spam is illegal if it promotes an illegal product or service. However, spam legislation is pending in the U.S. and Europe that would make the mere act of sending an unsolicited commercial email illegal in the absence of an existing business relationship. The Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial email (CAUCE) applauds the tough proposed European legislation, but opposed the 630 would establish UCE as a legislative practice. The bonus would be upon the recipient to 'opt out' of the mailing list by unsubscribing. In the event of non-compliance on the part of the spammer, it would be up to the ISP to trace them and take action (most end-users lack the sophistication to trace an email back to a physical real-world company or individual). Fines of up to $10 per illegal Spam would be levied. The CAUCE argues that since the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is the only enforcing body, given the large number of Spam emails it is unlikely that an serious enforcement would ever take place. CAUCE takes the position that the recipient's email resources are private property and liens UCE to placing advertising billboards on their property at no charge. Proposed European legislation is much tougher and many believe it would help get rid of Spam. It will require prior consent from the recipient before receiving unsolicited commercial electronic communications including SMS, fax, and email. The directive has already been published in the Official Journal of the Economic and Monetary Union and is expected to be implemented in member states by October 31st 2003.

Smile and Have a nice Day Smile

upinsmoke

Wolf-Man-Jack · none Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 31 Location: usa

Trixar_za · Posted: Dec 30, 2008 2:22pm Post subject:

So you're saying that advertising 'free' porn sites is acceptable then?

I rate Spam as Unsolicited (Unwanted, as in NOBODY ASKED FOR IT) Advertising (To make aware of). So Advertising IRC networks, especially using botnets & flooding to make those users aware of said IRC network IS Spamming (and honestly those people should be tracked down and be banned from the internet - FOREVER)

In fact, I've personally experienced this from SEVEN different irc networks in the last month! I even started killing them with spamfilters because it's become so bad. Honestly, I found that more and more networks are focusing more on mass spamming other networks than actually working on their network to make users WANT to be there. In other words, Networks that use this method of getting themselves known and out there, normally sucks and lose those users as quickly as they get them.

So my advice - Work on your network, make it fun and cool and the users will come in droves. If you want to kill your network and give it a bad name - Mass Advertise on other networks by flooding users with your Network Address...

FBI · Posted: Dec 30, 2008 2:35pm Post subject:

please just let this thread die no need to
bump it up again and again.....

Wolf-Man-Jack · none Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 31 Location: usa

for one i dont use botnets to spa networks and i dont go on networks spamming any ones networks and im gonna do what u said make my network as unique as i can and i want to wish all a happy new yr it cae fast to lol

PingBad · Posted: Dec 30, 2008 9:05pm Post subject:

FBI, the conversation regarding spamming is still very active, and we won't have backseat moderators thanks.

Now my 2c:

Spam is illegal here in New Zealand, however spammers are given a "free bite", and thereafter it is upto the recipients to decide their subscription status - unless the recipient explicitly indicates that they wish to receive more, the sender must remove the recipient's email address from the list (or at least deactivate it to ensure that further emails are not sent to the unwilling); failure to abide by this legislation may result in civil and/or legal proceedings.

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upinsmoke · Posted: Dec 30, 2008 11:17pm Post subject:

i see my original post got edited (header info removed)
mods? this type of info isn't allowed?