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ed
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PostPosted: May 06, 2006 10:34pm    Post subject: Blitzed DNSBL Shut Down Reply with quote

As of today, the Blizted DNSBL (OPM) has been officially shut down:
Quote:
We feel it would be best at this point
to shut down the DNSBL. We will shortly be arranging for the zones
to be emptied of all records and you should disable lookups against
opm.blitzed.org at your earliest convenience.


http://lists.blitzed.org/pipermail/opm-announce/2006q2/000015.html
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FBI
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PostPosted: May 06, 2006 11:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't use the link anymore...

Oh well at least someone will pick up where they left off sooner or later...
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ARcanUSNUMquam
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PostPosted: May 07, 2006 1:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody know of any alternatives? I found a site that has a bunch of BLs, but none of them seem IRC oriented or related. I'm also concerned with false positives, so a well maintained list is preferable. Maybe the next version of OPSB or BOPM can enlighten us as to another alternative.

Luckily, it doesn't seem like BOPM (the service bot) is shutting down, just the blocklist.
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vipa5000
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PostPosted: May 07, 2006 1:38pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yah, because of this we are starting our own list we are currently re-doing our dns system right now for geo-dns etc after that is done we will be doing the dnsbl
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ed
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PostPosted: May 07, 2006 1:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of a few alternatives that have been set into motion because of the close of the Blitzed DNSBL. I'll pass along information if/when I find out more.
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PostPosted: May 07, 2006 2:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well we use 2 tor databases and dronebl besides opm.blitzed but they don't catch much besides tor and dronebl doesn't catch anything
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PostPosted: May 07, 2006 9:43pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ahbl.org/
although their lack of removing dynamic ip addresses automatically can be a pain
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PostPosted: May 08, 2006 8:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to me ahbl isnt really a good option for IRC networks. It bans whole ISPs and dynamic IPs are not removed automaticly like DNB said.
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Jorijn
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PostPosted: May 08, 2006 11:41pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from my BOPM conf:

Quote:
/* example: NJABL - please read http://www.njabl.org/use.html before
* uncommenting */
blacklist {
name = "dnsbl.njabl.org";
type = "A record reply";
reply {
9 = "Open proxy";
};
ban_unknown = yes;
kline = "GLINE *@%h 24h :Open proxy found on your host, please visit www.njabl.org/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?query=%i";
};


As stated in the email of blitzed this one is sure to be good.
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vipa5000
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PostPosted: May 09, 2006 1:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its just a matter of time until someone manages to pick up on blitzed.
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Jorijn
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PostPosted: May 09, 2006 2:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vipa5000 wrote:
I think its just a matter of time until someone manages to pick up on blitzed.


You didnt read the email right?

Quote:
Hello,

As many of you have surmised, our main database and list server has been out of action now for over a week. We have completely failed to get in touch with our contact at the hosting company and don't really want to escalate things there given the free nature of the hosting.

We have partial backups of the machine which is why David has been able to bring back the mail service on another host, but some of the database tables used to run the DNSBL were massive (millions of
rows) and we never did find a way to affordably remotely mirror them. Reconstruction of the DNSBL service would therefore not be trivial even if we had access to a similar host today.

Also we must consider that those of us who work on developing the DNSBL software and those doing the day to day administrative duties (mostly responding to abuse reports for our proxy testing) have a lot less spare time than we did when we started the project.

Finally, in the time since we started, other proxy / compromised host DNSBLs commonly used by email administrators, such as SORBS, NJABL and CBL have grown much faster and the overlap between OPM and these was significant. For mail administrators, OPM has therefore been growing less and less relevant.

As a result of all of this, we feel it would be best at this point to shut down the DNSBL. We will shortly be arranging for the zones to be emptied of all records and you should disable lookups against opm.blitzed.org at your earliest convenience.

We apologise for the chaotic nature of this shut down, and for being so reliant on one server in the first place; unfortunately there was simply no budget anywhere to get additional servers so additional redundancy was always put in the "would be nice one day.." category.

OPM did remain very useful for some because of the aggressive way we sought to remove dynamic IPs -- not a concern for mail admins but very relevant to others such as IRC admins and possibly some web sites. For these all we can say is that we hope to take the next 3 to 6 months to see what resources we can pull together and how much time we can devote in order to bring the service back in a more redundant form.

Thank you to all those who supported the operation of the DNSBL for so long.

Regards,
Andy Smith
Blitzed OPM


As far as i am aware they lost almost all blitzed opm list data.
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vipa5000
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PostPosted: May 09, 2006 6:46pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it will be that hard to rebuild most proxies are on common ports anyways as i said we are working on building our own anyways so that we atleast have some database of known proxies w/o having to scan them it will take time but it will help.
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nenolod
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PostPosted: May 11, 2006 9:53am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vipa5000 wrote:
well we use 2 tor databases and dronebl besides opm.blitzed but they don't catch much besides tor and dronebl doesn't catch anything


DroneBL (noderebellion) was officially shut down in June 2005. There is now a community effort coming about to revive the system, located at http://www.dronebl.org.

People have been busy, but we're hoping to launch by mid-June 2006.
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liquidice
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PostPosted: May 14, 2006 4:47pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone found another list to use other than blitzed
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