Best IRCD

Alpha · Lurker Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 206

What IS the best IRCD?

I personally disapprove of Unreal too. It's a crappy IRCd and I don't like how it's composed.

charybdis is definitely a good IRCd, I know that. I don't run it.

InspIRCd is a good IRCd, I run that.

What's all your feed back?

Aven · Idler Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 393

There's no such thing as the best ircd. That's a generalization Razz

everyone has their own opinion.

But I do believe there are "what are the top stable ircds?" and "what are the top feature ircds?"

For stable and secure - I'd say ircu, bahamut, ratbox, hybrid, etc.
For feature ircds - I'd say unrealircd, quakeircd, ultimateIRCd, etc.

Those are all opinions of course, not everyone has to disagree.

Alpha · Lurker Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 206

Alright.

Everyone else tell me your favorites for Stability
Favorites for Features
and favorite new releases.

NSS-General · none Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 17

I've had no problems with the stability of Unreal, just have to know how to config it ;P

nenolod · Idler Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 357 Location: A box!

Willaim · Idler Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 321 Location: IRC

Please stop the Unreal bashing. Thank you.

Aven · Idler Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 393

Stability has nothing to do with the configuring part Razz

I know what I'm talking about because when I switched from unreal, I did notice a lot more stability.

Ty · none Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 47

Aven · Idler Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 393

Sephiroth · none Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 2

Hi

My network is currently running a slightly modified Unreal3.2.4. We have 3500+ global users (and almost 1000 channels) on the weekends, spread across 6 servers, that can hold of a max of between 500-1000.

I have never experienced nor received any complaints about the speed of our servers (unless there was actually another factor causing the lag).

5 of the servers are running on shell accounts, and one is on a VPS.

We're also using a number of additional features such as: ziplinks, ssl, remote includes with ssl, 6400 bytes of mask list space per channel.

I should also note that Unreal has NEVER (we've been using it for almost a year) crashed on us apart from when receiving malformed server->server data.

However, we do suffer from problems with Anope (1.7.13) when sql dumping is enabled. Taking 3~ minutes to save the databases every hour was causing too much drama from our users, so we've disabled this feature for now. Denora 1.1.0 has also been causing performance problems for us.

All in all, Unreal would appear to be quite adequate for small to medium networks. Also, a note to Aven: I once had 300+ clients using Unreal running in a virtual FreeBSD on my aDSL (2mbit down/128kbit up) for almost a week without any problems.

For performance, you would obviously want to take a look at what the big four are using. I haven't played around with as many IRCds as I probably should have, but Hybrid7 (and it's variants) strike me as being fast. Hybrid also has a nice set of features, which might suprise you. It's geared towards a serviceless environment.

The first IRC network I became a regular on was running Bahamut 1.4.x, so that's a somewhat special IRCd to me. It's very reliable, and has great compatibility with services (however I remember there being some issues with services desync). It offers a nice oper power balance by default - you can do the things you need to do without allowing things like automatic ban walking or oper override.

Inspircd looks promising. Not using the legacy codebase found in so many other packages is a great start. It also allows you to customize the IRC experience to a great degree, with a huge number of features stored in optional modules. Mesh linking, when/if reimplemented would be very appealing. However, I believe it may currently have some performance problems. It uses 3.0% of my CPU when completely idle, with no clients or links.

As I said before, I haven't played with other IRCds as much as I would like to, so most of what I've said here are really just my initial impressions..

Kelsey23 · none Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 33

I would recommen IRCd-Hyrbid, Charybdis, or PlExUs. Use IRCd-Hybrid if you want Anope and NeoStats. With IRCd-Hybrid (basic install, no extra options besides the path to install, no contrib/) you will actually be fairly close to the RFC (but not right on). Charybdis has excellent support for atheme services. I also like some of chaybdis's features like +P chamode (for permenent channel). I think Charybdis would be great if you want a small or medium network..where you know the users well. PlExUs has the most chanmodes of IRCd-Hybird and Charybdis. I noticed when I ran PlExUs there was a bit more lag, but I think that is do to the increased features. If your users really like +qa (~&) you might want to wait until PlExUs 3, which will support that. Whatever you do, do not use Unreal. Unreal is too bloated and it "feels" like it makes more lag (example: one network switched from Unreal to InspIRCd, they went from having 1+s lag to no lag at all, instantly). Unreal isn't harder to setup, it's actually easier, which I find surprising considering how alot of options are setup in the core when you compile it that should't (READ: Hub vs. Leaf). There is a reason BIG nets don't run Unreal, because it's really not that great.

Ty · none Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 47

Unless your network is 1,000+ users, I really don't think Unreal is the thing causing this "lag."

I oper on a ~150 network using Unreal, and latency isn't a problem at all. If you're getting one second lag times, you probably have more important things to fix than an inefficient IRCd. I know Unreal bashing is all the rage these days, but at least use some common sense.

Also, Kelsey, networks looking for the feature set of Unreal aren't going to find charybdis, PleXus, or hybrid appealing at all.

Kelsey23 · none Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 33

Ty · none Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 47

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