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Hijacking wireless networks - Good or bad?
Great idea
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Terrible idea
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I don't care
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braindigitalis
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2006 7:39am    Post subject: Wifi Hijacking - good or bad? Reply with quote

Do you think its acceptable to steal other peoples internet by connecting to insecure wireless networks?

Names withheld, but ive heard from a few people recently (some from these boards) who are doing this, and in my opinion its pretty low. It makes me glad ive secured my own wireless network so that people cant do stuff like this, if you want internet, pay your own damn bills.
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]Daniel
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2006 7:43am    Post subject: Re: Wifi Hijacking - good or bad? Reply with quote

braindigitalis wrote:
Do you think its acceptable to steal other peoples internet by connecting to insecure wireless networks?

Names withheld, but ive heard from a few people recently (some from these boards) who are doing this, and in my opinion its pretty low. It makes me glad ive secured my own wireless network so that people cant do stuff like this, if you want internet, pay your own damn bills.


I know i sparked this from you in the Inspircd Channel, but I dont mind. Ive been using this network for 4 months, but you know what, i dont feel so bad, i always left my network open for bypassers, for a year i did that until i moved. I cant afford internet at the moment, but hey, its better than not being online at all.
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ol
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2006 7:46am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes, it can be useful to set up a temporary open AP, I must admit. However, in tune with some of the complaints in IRC Abuse, this is a possible vector for the nastier set of people to use to annoy the rest of us.
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Rob_
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2006 7:53am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So err, who's responsible for whatever traffic leaves your ip address ? :)

long as "but i run an open wi-fi" is accepted as a legal excuse why your IP address was the source of the largest illigal activities empire on the whole internet, sure why not, i'll go with open wi-fi for all :)
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magpie
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2006 8:40am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course hijacking somebody else's wireless network is bad, and I believe it's also illegal. Oh, and the excuse that you can't afford internet access otherwise is a pathetic justification for it, imho.
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braindigitalis
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2006 9:10am    Post subject: Reply with quote

magpie wrote:
Of course hijacking somebody else's wireless network is bad, and I believe it's also illegal. Oh, and the excuse that you can't afford internet access otherwise is a pathetic justification for it, imho.


Here in the uk there are many cafes (not just cybercafes... starbucks for example) and even mcdonalds has public wifi hotspots, which are legal to use. Why these people dont use these legal hotspots is beyond me :p
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magpie
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2006 9:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. Anyway, it's not like BT Openzone is particularly expensive either. I actually used it quite a lot when I worked at BT as their own in-house wireless signal was too weak! :)
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Aven
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2006 12:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Terrible idea". Basiclly, it's stealing which is a bad thing.
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]Daniel
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PostPosted: Jan 30, 2006 5:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol...if you was in the position i was, you'd understand...the money we have is going for my nieces food, and she is 2...we got 4 people living on an income 1400 dollars, and the rent is 600...and some more stuff..
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Om
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PostPosted: Feb 02, 2006 4:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's stealing, and stealing is bad.
Admittedly it's usually only possible because people can't cope with actually configuring a network. And maybe they need some kind of wakeup call to make them realise what's happening, but just casually stealing the internet access THEY pay for does not do that, and is a Bad Thing (tm) imo.
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Aven
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PostPosted: Feb 02, 2006 5:48pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get dial-up... There's dial-up as low as $7 a month.

And you can always get a 90 day trial from AOL. Yes, AOL sucks a LOT but it's better than stealing.

Honestly, when I first got my PC, my parents were too tight with their money to afford internet so I went ahead and used AOL's 90 day free trial, better than nothing or stealing. Although, now I have cable (thank goodness) Razz

Besides, AOL stays connected 24/7, better than what you're using because I see you pinging out a lot.
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]Daniel
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PostPosted: Feb 03, 2006 1:19am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aven wrote:
Just get dial-up... There's dial-up as low as $7 a month.

And you can always get a 90 day trial from AOL. Yes, AOL sucks a LOT but it's better than stealing.

Honestly, when I first got my PC, my parents were too tight with their money to afford internet so I went ahead and used AOL's 90 day free trial, better than nothing or stealing. Although, now I have cable (thank goodness) Razz

Besides, AOL stays connected 24/7, better than what you're using because I see you pinging out a lot.


Dont think I havent considered that? We dont have a landline...
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WhaLberg
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PostPosted: Feb 03, 2006 2:58am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cousen does that and it's really good. Razz
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MOVIEBOT
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PostPosted: Feb 03, 2006 5:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use my neighbours wireless network Very Happy and its like 30mb/ps lol and use it to stay on irc Very Happy and use mine just for downloading Razz
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magpie
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PostPosted: Feb 03, 2006 8:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me laugh that people supposedly strapped for cash, and struggling to buy food, nethertheless find the money to have a PC or laptop. Reminds me of UK council estates where everybody has Sky TV.
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