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Pronto
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 Posted: Nov 04, 2005 10:51am Post subject: Wondering about networks 'looking for links' |
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Lately i've been seeing quite a few small networks looking for links, and it's getting annoying always seeing "looking for links", so why don't they just get users first? They'll have a much higher chance of recruiting servers if they have more users. Anyways, just wanted other people's opinions.  |
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Yogi
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| Posted: Nov 04, 2005 2:05pm Post subject: |
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Quite agree, we are a new network, small at the moment but until we get more users links would be pointless, we would just end up with a network full of opers lol
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MexDownunda
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Joined: 19 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Nov 07, 2005 6:43am Post subject: totaly agree |
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A network needs to stand alone and look to nearly outgrow the system(s) it has before it adds more. Yogi is correct, no network needs to be top heavy with opers and servers. Build your user base first.
My 3p worth!
Keep smiling! =o)
MexDownunda
PS Very nice to see you Yogi!  |
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Loser04
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Joined: 22 Dec 2004
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Location: Fairfield,California USA
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| Posted: Nov 07, 2005 8:33pm Post subject: |
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| I can't say much, SubIRC has only been open since Sept 3rd 2005, but ive got about a 70 user base, no warez or anything. ive had a few nets myself, which ive shut down due to boredom on IRC or lack of funding, im not shutting subirc down though, but erm, why don't people just stop making networks and linking to networks that already exist? |
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EviL_SmUrF
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Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Nov 08, 2005 7:24am Post subject: |
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it was quite funny this morning when i woke up and saw 4 new posts in help wanted. each one said "a new network has been created! we are small right now but hope to grow!"
*rolls eyes* |
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Yogi
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Joined: 12 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Nov 08, 2005 8:49am Post subject: |
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| Loser04 wrote: | | I can't say much, SubIRC has only been open since Sept 3rd 2005, but ive got about a 70 user base, no warez or anything. ive had a few nets myself, which ive shut down due to boredom on IRC or lack of funding, im not shutting subirc down though, but erm, why don't people just stop making networks and linking to networks that already exist? |
I think the answer to that is that they haven't found an existing net that meets their needs.
I'm sure that most of us have been staff on other networks, that's where we learn. Learn both how to do stuff and how *not* to do stuff.
With windoze IRCD's and adsl/cable available there are now a lot more people liable to start IRC networks. Some will be for good reasons, some cos they are wannabe Net Admins
Good networks will attract users and grow, bad ones will wither and die.
But, hey, that's IRC
Steve 
/me waves to MexDownunda |
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Loser04
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| Posted: Nov 08, 2005 4:12pm Post subject: |
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| I couldn't agree with you more. |
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FBI
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Location: Federation Of Bored IRC'ers
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| Posted: Nov 19, 2005 10:30pm Post subject: |
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I see it as a waste of money....
I seen people with 7 servers and 5 guys.....
Its there choice to buy em and the idots who are willing to link em...  |
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Aven
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Joined: 05 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Nov 23, 2005 3:23pm Post subject: |
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Who said it's the amount of users that counts?
A Network that starts out with very good policy and rules, etc. Admins will say "hmm, that's a good partner to work with" and he/she would link a server and work as a team to improve the network.
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PingBad
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Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Nov 24, 2005 5:19am Post subject: |
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the reality of it is, users and network policy go hand in hand for success/failure....
having a strong, well worded policy will attract users, and thus network reputation (bringing with it more servers volunteering their services in spreading the userbase).
Adversly, having a poor or substandard policy (or one seldom enforced) would be detrimental to the reputation of one's network, and the staff which maintain it... scaring away the users you want, getting users you don't want, and at the same time losing servers that would be vital to the integrity of your work...
just my 2 cents |
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magpie
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| Posted: Nov 24, 2005 8:34am Post subject: |
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This is completely wrong. In my experience, when IRC users join a network they don't even look at policies.
What tends to be far more influential is how the network staff treat the users once they've joined. Oh, and how many cool and pointless services are on offer to them too. :) |
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PingBad
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| Posted: Nov 24, 2005 11:42am Post subject: |
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| magpie wrote: | | This is completely wrong. In my experience, when IRC users join a network they don't even look at policies. |
yes this is true, however there are some who do scroll up on their status window and have a look-see at the /motd and maybe even /rules (if the Server Admin ever bothered to create/edit either file), or surfing the network site and finding the policies there | Quote: | | What tends to be far more influential is how the network staff treat the users once they've joined. Oh, and how many cool and pointless services are on offer to them too. |
Well, it's the Network Staff who enforce a policy, so in a way, the userbase would be reading the policies by way of "leading by example". I agree with the cool and pointless services too, there are some networks that go mod crazy (seen one with almost every mod on the anope site and then some... was a tad crazy, I initially thought, but hey - it's unique!).
Either way you look at it, the users are getting to terms with the network policies by either reading the policies themselves, or by observing the netstaff (who should be the ones that enforce a network policy, and not act like they are above the rules) |
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magpie
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Location: Essex, UK
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| Posted: Nov 25, 2005 6:30pm Post subject: |
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| PingBad wrote: | | ...who should be the ones that enforce a network policy, and not act like they are above the rules... |
Herein lies the problem. :) |
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PingBad
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| magpie wrote: | | PingBad wrote: | | ...who should be the ones that enforce a network policy, and not act like they are above the rules... |
Herein lies the problem. |
too damned true |
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katsklaw
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| Posted: Nov 26, 2005 8:52am Post subject: |
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| Loser04 wrote: | | [..] erm, why don't people just stop making networks and linking to networks that already exist? |
For the same reason you created your net .. and for the same reason every one of the thousands of other networks except for EFnet was created. |
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