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phl
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PostPosted: May 11, 2005 9:47am    Post subject: Averrage calculation method ? Reply with quote

hello I discover this site a few days ago.

First of all : Great job dudes Wink

I'm wondering how you count the averrage user of a quakenet channel ?

is it an averrage since the chhanel appears on SearchIRC ?

or a averrage over a fixed period ?


Thanks
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PostPosted: May 11, 2005 3:54pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's the avg based on how many times the chan has been seen, plus the sum of all the users seen.

when a channel is seen N number of times, the avg is reset. This prevents old numbers from preventing the avg from updating.

HOWERVER the avg isn't reset frequently. So the avg is usually based on several months of data, not just one or two weeks.
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phl
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PostPosted: May 12, 2005 6:27am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks

what do you mean by the number of time a channel is "seen" ?
do you mean : each time someone search about the channel on this website ?

I want to know your way of calculation because Quakenet ask for an average of 50 users over a 14 days period but they don't provide us a way to see our average.

according to this site we currently have 47, so I hope both ways of calculation are the same Wink
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PostPosted: May 12, 2005 6:29am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phl wrote:
I want to know your way of calculation because Quakenet ask for an average of 50 users over a 14 days period but they don't provide us a way to see our average.


I mean :
I want to know your way of calculation because Quakenet ask for an average of 50 users over a 14 days period to get a Q-bot but they don't provide us a way to see our average.
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PostPosted: May 12, 2005 6:44am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phl wrote:
thanks

what do you mean by the number of time a channel is "seen" ?
do you mean : each time someone search about the channel on this website ?

I want to know your way of calculation because Quakenet ask for an average of 50 users over a 14 days period but they don't provide us a way to see our average.

according to this site we currently have 47, so I hope both ways of calculation are the same Wink
By seen, it would be defined as each time the scrawl bots connect to the network and see the channel in /list -- What is the name of your channel by the way? I think SearchIRC offers a code block (w/e you wanna call it) that shows the stats of a given page on a given network
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PostPosted: May 12, 2005 6:48am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The method searchirc uses is obviously totally unrelated to the method used by QuakeNet. Attempting to use external figures in an attempt to justify obtaining channel services is a waste of both your time and QuakeNet's as the system is fully automated.
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Jason
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PostPosted: May 12, 2005 9:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

searchirc can only poll the networks for channel lists. We don't know the actual figures. The only way for us to have 100% accurate numbers is if we had a server linked to every network that would be passed all global network information - specifically JOIN/PART. Even then it's impossible to know the true numbers due to netsplits.

Regardless, SearchIRC isn't going to link any server to any network, and we aren't going to repeatedly do /list in order to try to get more accurate numbers. It's a waste of bandwidth for all parties involved. Not to mention /list is THE the most cpu/bandwidth consuming command available on IRC. This is one reason why SearchIRC is useful for the networks - our one /list feeds several hundred thousand SearchIRC visitors a day, giving users access to the difficult to manage and search channel lists.
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