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Pepper-Tech
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PostPosted: Feb 14, 2005 9:09pm    Post subject: Repeat akill evasion Reply with quote

I've got a pest on my network who was once a netadmin who is constantly using numerous nicknames and connections to get past an akill. I've done my akills with nick@*.dsl.isp.com to make sure anytime he uses that nick he's blocked, but he's using multiple nicks and I'd hate to get to the point where I have to block a whole city. Any suggestions?

I"m using unrealircd 3.2.2 and anope 1.6.3.
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 3:53am    Post subject: Reply with quote

/os akill add +expiredays ident*@* some reason
that usually works and most users take a while to figure out its their ident being akilled
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 4:34am    Post subject: Hmm. Reply with quote

Well yeah that should work , however if they use vhosts or proxies it might be a hard task. Anyways I think you should try that command.
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 7:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe IRC clients should not have an option to change ident anyways, i mean sure set ur own and whatnot once like on install of a fresh new client but any kiddie can get around any ban with just changing their ident, using a proxy and a new nick which is very easy to do, and brings problems to the network and once again opers and admins are tasked on getting rid of the pest.

anyone else agrees with me on this? seriously we have all expirienced problems with kiddies im sure of it
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Proto
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 7:36am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I have. Far as the VHosts go, just ban the IP block unless you have a ton of users within the same ip range. In anope I cant remember which command it is, but try akilling/glining the real name field, usually works for me.
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 8:12am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A realname G:Line would have to be added in the IRCd conf wouldn't it?

I know there's a certain block for disallowing GECOS names (don't remember what it's called) but I don't think there's a command for it..
I suppose on Unreal an oper could use repeated /addline's if absolutely neccessary, but I think all server admins hate that. I know I do.
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 8:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot as well but I recall setting it once on services not actualy on ircd.conf
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 10:24am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its in anope, i think its SGLINE or SQLINE
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 10:26am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy I'm trying to akill is a former netadmin on my network. He changes idents & nicknames faster than a mother can change diapers so the only way to really stop this guy is *@*.city.isp.com and block the whole city for a month or two. I just risk blocking innocent people who may use the network.

/os akill add +0 *@*.city.isp.com banned! <-- last resort, need other options or do that and find exception bans for innocents.
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 12:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My suggestion would be that you load up the NEOSTATS proram and specifically its SECURESERV module.

Then you will be able to define custom metabans........ such as :

*ident@*.*

These metabans are different from normal bans in that they don't ban anyone themselves, they just cause *@IP bans to be set for anyone matching them.

E.g.
I ban ident@* using metaban.
User signs on using ident@1.1.1.1 and *@1.1.1.1 gets akilled
User signs on using ident@2.2.2.2 and *@2.2.2.2 gets akilled
User signs on using ident@3.3.3.3 and *@3.3.3.3 gets akilled
User signs on using ident@4.4.4.4 and *@4.4.4.4 gets akilled

By the time he's figured out we're banning his ident, most of the IP addresses he can use have been blocked at the IP level.

He then signs on using another ident (with the same reason, so he doesn't know the difference)
You do the same thing, and pretty soon all of his IPs are blocked.


There ARE faults with this method.

For example, to use it you have to download neostats, and secureserv, and create a customviri.dat with an exact format, which if you mess up with, can wipe out everyone on your network....

Also, the akill disconnection is slightly different using this method so if he's really smart he could figure it out.

Nevertheless, this is one method I use to combat persistent evaders, because by the time they've hit the ban, their IP is blocked for a long time... and they have to hit the ban many times with different IPs each time (chewing through their avalible IPs) before they realise HOW they are being blocked.


Two other suggestions for you are :

1) install bopm on all your servers, using more then just dnsbl.blitzed.org as your blacklist......... make sure that you block open proxies.

2) set all your channels +R and use email verification on nickname registration....... this will slow him down and enable you to pick up his email addresses and block them too.

3) CTCP version him....... and block any clients with that VERSION from connecting. This won't work if he uses mirc latest version as you'd block half your network..... but it can work if they use some really rare client.


-Ashen
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 12:55pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that ident akill with neostats is pretty much like operserv ident akill Confused
it does the same
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Pepper-Tech
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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2005 1:38pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL You're missing the point.. he changes his ident every connection, it's impossible to pin this guy down without blocking the entire city. It's getting to where I may have to knock out 589,824 connections to block the guy. Presently I'm having to ban...

nick1@*.dsl.city.isp.com
nick2@*.dsl.city.isp.com

Every ident he uses I've had to block and the akill list looks like a world wide phone book, it's annoying. It's getting to where *@*.dsl.city.isp.com and take out everyone from that city on one shot.
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Ashen
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PostPosted: Feb 16, 2005 6:03am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this sort of situation I would suggest either :

1) block his client version - as he likely does NOT change that much/often

2) mlock all your channels +MR and all your users +R, then set email confirmation required to register, and ban him by email address.

3) Keep blocking entire cities at a time until he runs out of cities :)

This is one of the problems of the internet - someone really clueful really can evade bans quite easily, as there is llittle to no secure means of identification.

-Ashen
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Eleet
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PostPosted: Feb 16, 2005 6:30am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that sounds like "ban the whole world" to get rid of just one user ashen lol
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Pepper-Tech
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PostPosted: Feb 16, 2005 10:41am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL I think I'll just block the one city, he doesn't travel much for a teen.
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