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wr3stling4ng3l none

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 2
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Posted: Dec 04, 2004 7:36am Post subject: WHY is Someone DDOS my network?!? We're under new Management |
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--- I do not know why someone decided to DDOS irc.dragonchat.org. I can tell you that we have new management. Justin has stepped down as IRC OP due to stress. Ox_king is the new admin, I'm co-founder. We have not done anything to anyone. We are minding our own business. If you have a grudge, please contact us. We will be happy to settle it without hurting our users. We may be small, but we have dedicated users who you are hurting. I don't see the point in hurting someone's peaceful network. Yeah, I said peaceful. I know Dragonchat has been controverisal in the past, but those days are over. If you need to attack something, please try attacking someone else. I personally am tired of the crap. ---- If you have a problem with something we've done and cannot connect to the server, please email me at wrestling_angel@hotmail.com. I'll be more than happy to discuss it with you like adults. --- Please if you are assosicated with the DDOS, let us be. We haven't done anything to anyone.
----- Thank you for your time ----
Jessie aka wr3stling4ng3l |
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codemastr Idler

Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 345
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Posted: Dec 04, 2004 3:06pm Post subject: |
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If you think people DoS simply because you've done something to them, you are completely mistaken. They could be doing it for fun, because they don't like your domain name, because they hate dragons, because they have nothing better to do, etc. If you don't want DoS attacks, don't run an IRC server. Furthermore, if anything, this post will just make the DoSer continue the attack. He nows sees that it is hurting you badly, which is mostly likely exactly what he wants.
| Quote: | | If you need to attack something, please try attacking someone else. |
Quite frankly, after reading that, I'm a bit disgusted with your network. "Screw everyone else, as long as I'm OK," that's basically what you've just said. |
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zeke Idler

Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 334
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Posted: Dec 04, 2004 9:21pm Post subject: |
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i agree, attitudes like that annoy me also.
That said... *tries to be more constructive than apparent trolling/flaming*
You said its been controversial in the past? It could be left over from that. It could be someone who didn't like it becoming less controversial. Chances are its some randomer who got bored with a botnet, and found your network somewhere. But ultimately, you run a server for any length of time, its not long before you'll get your share of DoS, some just get it more than others.
| Quote: | | If you don't want DoS attacks, don't run an IRC server. |
Or any type of server  |
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Apostle none

Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 27
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Posted: Dec 05, 2004 12:59am Post subject: |
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| well, welcome to the world of IRC heh |
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JohnB Idler

Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 314 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Dec 06, 2004 5:47am Post subject: |
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| lol |
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[DiMENSiON] Eleet

Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 670
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Posted: Dec 06, 2004 10:03am Post subject: |
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Sadly it seems in the world of IRC it's a everyone on their own thing, no networks seem to support each other unless they gain from this, i kind of see why but i think people need to look out for each other just because it would be nice.
JohnB i find lol does not actually contribute to the forum, please refrain from pointlessly posting. |
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JohnB Idler

Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 314 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Dec 06, 2004 12:29pm Post subject: |
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| ohhhhh yes mother nick! |
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[DiMENSiON] Eleet

Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 670
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Posted: Dec 06, 2004 12:31pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sorry JohnB, you knows i loves you. |
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codemastr Idler

Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 345
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Posted: Dec 07, 2004 5:41pm Post subject: |
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| [DiMENSiON] wrote: | | Sadly it seems in the world of IRC it's a everyone on their own thing, no networks seem to support each other unless they gain from this, i kind of see why but i think people need to look out for each other just because it would be nice. |
Right. However, just because you're "on your own" doesn't mean you go tell a DoSer to go DoS a different network. You're basically telling them to commit the crime, just choose a different victim. |
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[DiMENSiON] Eleet

Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 670
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Posted: Dec 08, 2004 5:17am Post subject: |
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I didn't mean that i was saying i wish people would stick together. Also if DDoSers really want to DDoS leave the small networks alone and show off and try and takedown a big network. Leave the lil ones alone. Not that you should DDoS atall...
P.S i was writing a long more detailed post but head of computing came in the lab so i had to shut down the window and now i can't be fucked to type it all again. |
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zeke Idler

Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 334
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Posted: Dec 08, 2004 10:04pm Post subject: |
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theres one dude been attacking a network i admin the past couple of days....
its kinda lame tho...seems hes aiming everything he's got at the server with the worst connection....its not like its hard to take it down..... |
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DeMiNe0 Lurker

Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 197 Location: Westchester, New York
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Posted: Apr 03, 2005 1:27am Post subject: |
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| codemastr wrote: | If you think people DoS simply because you've done something to them, you are completely mistaken. They could be doing it for fun, because they don't like your domain name, because they hate dragons, because they have nothing better to do, etc. If you don't want DoS attacks, don't run an IRC server. Furthermore, if anything, this post will just make the DoSer continue the attack. He nows sees that it is hurting you badly, which is mostly likely exactly what he wants.
| Quote: | | If you need to attack something, please try attacking someone else. |
Quite frankly, after reading that, I'm a bit disgusted with your network. "Screw everyone else, as long as I'm OK," that's basically what you've just said. |
So if somone attacked you and you had the chance to save yourself by telling them to attack somone else, you wouldn't do that? Very noble of you...
I don't support DDoSing myself, but i can feel what he ment... "Why me?"
The kid is having a hard enough time as it is.. I remember when I had bad ddos problems as well.. I got the same exact attitude as this kid is getting here. In fact i even got an attitude for codemastr here. So you know what i did? I asked a friend what to do... A friend who belongs to the biggest bottnet ring around.... And you know what he did? He told me to call me datacenter, and explain to them ways to filter the attacks.
It turns out the a bottnet kiddie was a whole world more helpful then a Lead Developer of one of the leading IRCds... Alot nicer to.. |
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Willaim Idler

Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 321 Location: IRC
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Posted: Apr 03, 2005 2:16pm Post subject: |
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| Like telling a murderer to go murder someone else instead. Nice. |
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chasingsol none

Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 44
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Posted: Jan 25, 2006 8:43pm Post subject: |
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| zeke wrote: | theres one dude been attacking a network i admin the past couple of days....
its kinda lame tho...seems hes aiming everything he's got at the server with the worst connection....its not like its hard to take it down..... |
This is why if you're going to try and run an IRC network, you don't run it on a home connection or other weak connection. When your network of DSL or cable connections falls apart when some packet kiddie points a few DDoS bots at you, there's not a whole heck of a lot you can do... other than not run IRCD's on crap connections.
Stability for any network is the holy grail of IRC and incredibly difficult to achieve (and often expensive too). But complaining that your 1.5/128 DSL connection just got hit and dropped all the clients and upset your ISP... well, comes with the territory. |
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V8d_Org none

Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Jan 28, 2006 5:29pm Post subject: |
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| I personaly dont like domains with the dot/'.'/period sign in it... |
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