opinions on the IRCnet IRCd

crash3k · none Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 6

I've been looking everywhere for this information, and can't find it. What's everyone's opinion on the original IRCd? And do any services support it? I saw that IRC Services supported 2.8, but 2.9 and 2.10 seem completely unsupported, anyone know why?

katsklaw · Posted: Oct 05, 2004 6:23am Post subject:

the original IRCd?I highly doubt the original IRCd is available since the current IRC version is IRC2.

Since IRCnet split from EFnet I would think that the original IRCd would be more like ircd-hybrid or ircd-ratbox than IRCnet's ircd. I may be wrong I don't know anything about IRCnet.

At anyrate, any IRCd that is used on a 100,000 user network should be considered stable and arguably a good IRCd. Even Bahamut from DALnet which has been load tested at 40,000 actual users on 1 IRCd on a production network should be sufficient for any small, medium or large network. Making it so that the question would be which features would you like?

crash3k · none Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 6

Well, the actual daemon is at irc2. Original meaning complete RFC compliance. I'm not looking for any extra features, it's mostly for use as a model as a new IRCd is put under development.

Monosex · none Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Posts: 14

pomme · none Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 28

The original "ircd" is pretty primitive. At one time, it didn't even have the kill command.

codemastr · Idler Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 345

I've hated the IRCNet IRCd since the first day I saw it. They basically have decided to have the same features as everyone else, just to implement it in a way that is incompatible with everyone else. I mean, have you seen their new crazy "Reop" list? What's so bad about having a chanserv bot??? And then there is the /squery command to talk to services unlike how it is done everywhere else. My guess is the reason the newer versions are unsupported is because they've butchered the protocol so much that adding compatibility is more work than it is worth. Meaning, if you spend 2 months adding support for an IRCd 2 people use...

aquanight · Lurker Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 116 Location: Boise, ID

w00t · Posted: Oct 08, 2004 9:33am Post subject:

[01:32:15] 122342 4 41 :global 122342 users, 4 services, 41 servers
[01:32:15] 206 operators online
[01:32:15] 37 unknown connections
[01:32:15] 58411 channels formed
[01:32:15] 1278 0 1 :local 1278 users, 0 services, 1 servers
[01:32:15] 1744 131227 :max 1744 local users, 131227 global users

(I'd call that more than 2. But anyway.)

I do think it has rather silly ideas, but I sort of like the idea of having snomasks sending to channels rather than users... but i suppose the same could be done by client-side filtering...

codemastr · Idler Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 345

aquanight · Lurker Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 116 Location: Boise, ID

magpie · Idler Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Essex, UK

You don't need to send server notices (SNOTICEs) to channels to be able to discuss things that have occured on the network, you simply need some sort of oper channel. In my experience, the less spam sent to these the better. I'm assuming you meant server notices when you said SNOMASKS, as I know SNOMASKs as determining which SNOTICEs you will receive. If not disregard this whole post. :)

There are also a number of SNOTICEs that are only relevant to the peopel connected directly to that server anyway. For instance, maximum client connection notices. Why would you want these sent to a channel? Same goes for various socket notices.

w00t · Posted: Oct 09, 2004 11:22am Post subject:

I believe those type snotices (yes, sorry) go to local channels.

magpie · Idler Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Essex, UK

I see. Still seems a bit pointless to me, as the local IRCd still has to keep track of those local channels, and they're extra channels I'd have to join in order to view stuff. I guess I'm just a SNOTICE and SNOMASK fan. :)

codemastr · Idler Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 345

Notice masks give you greater control. Imagine if IRCnet had a local channel for each snomask available in either ircu or UnrealIRCd. Would you want to join 10 channels to see server notices? I wouldn't...

aquanight · Lurker Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 116 Location: Boise, ID

You're usually limited to joining 10 channels, so join your server notice channels, and guess what? You can't join anymore! (Actually, I think opers can step over those limits...)