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W-Unit
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Joined: 29 Jul 2004
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The first time I got on IRC I joined a channel for a forum I was on (UFF9 if any of yall have ever heard of them. My name was grandragon2000, but I left like a couple years ago so you probably don't remember me (I didn't know that grand dragons were associated with KKK and I AM NOT KKK or even close, thats the main reason I dont use that name anymore)) and there were MORE girls than guys. Since then I have joined IRC channels for other forums (that weren't IRC related) and they usually have the same case, or they have about an even number of guys and gals. Other than such IRC channels, however, I have seen very few girls on IRC, and in my time going across many different networks, rarely staying with one for more than a month (except of course the ones I oper) I have only seen one female IRCop.
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AshleighJane
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Joined: 23 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Oct 06, 2004 6:03pm Post subject: |
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I don't think you can generalize how men will accept you... some acted threatened, others were downright thrilled to see women involved with IRC. Mostly they were just surprised. |
Remember when I first had o-lines and entered the oper room, the network owner said *Please make Jane feel welcome* this was amongst 22 IRCops/admins, only 4 of them did, the rest where suprised to see a female in a male dominated room, I got alot of fun poked at me, but gave back good too, and the acceptance of me then turned into amazing time of being part of the team, then another girl came with olines and I was able to support her , not that she needed any help.
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Incidentally, of the few women I've talked to online, I've always found their conversation to be stimulating. |
But would you agree that these stimulating chats come in a period of time ?, I tend to put a limit of 6 months in between building the friendship up first.
| [DiMENSiON] wrote: | | Where i chat at there is very few female chatters, there needs to be more around a 1:1 ratio would be nice. |
| W-Unit wrote: | | I have seen very few girls on IRC, and in my time going across many different networks, rarely staying with one for more than a month (except of course the ones I oper) I have only seen one female IRCop. |
From my experieces on IRC, their are hundreds of girls chatting on the many different networks, but most tend to head for the adult/sexuality chatrooms where their are more in numbers, some go their just for casual chatting making friends, others are into this cyber scening, and some are just out to be a pain (Drama queens) but each to their own in how they want to express themselves.
I personally prefer just casual chatting as you can learn alot from each others personality / behaviour patterns online, therefore you have that image on how each other are in real life too, so this makes chatting with both sexes, once the barriers are down and making friends that much easier providing you gel together and having fun along the way too, its just the same in real life, you meet/chat in the same way.
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theEd
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Joined: 15 Mar 2004
Posts: 74
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Oct 06, 2004 9:38pm Post subject: |
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| I find there tend to be a more even number of males and females on the Christian Networks, which is interesting. |
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magpie
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Joined: 18 Jan 2004
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Location: Essex, UK
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2004 2:36am Post subject: |
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| AshleighJane wrote: | | magpie wrote: |
Incidentally, of the few women I've talked to online, I've always found their conversation to be stimulating. |
But would you agree that these stimulating chats come in a period of time ?, I tend to put a limit of 6 months in between building the friendship up first. |
Nope, not 6 months at least. Sure, it varies, but I don't think it's ever taken *that* long to have a stimulating conversation with somebody I've made the choice to get to know over IRC. If it did the likelyhood is that I'd simply get bored with them and move on (male or female). |
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AshleighJane
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Joined: 23 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2004 1:09pm Post subject: |
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| theEd wrote: | | I find there tend to be a more even number of males and females on the Christian Networks, which is interesting. |
That is interesting then in what you have said, because I didnt think there would be...... any nets you can recommend ?
I cant remember if I have ever visited a Christian network before, maybe one day I will, as now and again I like to explore other nets, where channels have subject chats, sharing each others experiences.
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[DiMENSiON]
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Joined: 06 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2004 2:17pm Post subject: |
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| I have been on a few christian networks, very friendly people.. Just watch your language! heheh. |
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Howard
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Joined: 16 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Oct 24, 2004 4:17am Post subject: |
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We are about in numbers, perhaps some of us, dont bother seeking staff positions on searchIRC forum , I get my invites from word of mouth or invited too, my present network owner is female, but equally so I really dont mind what sex a network owner is as long as they are genuine in their words and not full of crap like some. |
I'm reminded of a discussion that happened a **long** time ago (like long before irc was implemented for the first time) concerning women doing various things in military settings. What it came down to, in the end, is that the variations between male and female were swamped by the variations *within* male and female populations. No matter how good you were in any particular field, there is a darned good chance that there's *someone* of the opposite sex out there that's able to beat you at your best. No matter how poorly someone of the opposite sex can do a given task, there's going to be *someone* of your sex that will do worse.
Bdsm-net is certainly 'different' from most of the other irc operations around, and while our crew's not balanced 50-50 there is substantial representation - but we're not big enough to start drawing statistical conclusions about the ratios and such.
It just comes down to the point that there are differences. Differences in outlook, differences in skill levels, differences in methods - but those differences are differences between *people*, and not differences between sexes. |
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Ashen
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Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Posts: 284
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| Posted: Oct 24, 2004 10:22am Post subject: |
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Sometimes it depends quite a lot on the network that you're on.
On a network I used to go to, irc.cyberarmy.net - I always found there were several females among the IRC population, even though the population was mostly comprised of somewhat geeky 14-24 year old males. This never seemed to be a problem though, as everyone there was quite smart and we diddn't much care about the sex/gender/race/etc of any person so long as they were good at their job.
Conversely, most of the 'mainstream' networks.... especially the larger ones such as Quakenet / Undernet, have such scum on them that you do get lots of clueless males making life difficult for females there. 'General Purpose' networks which don't have a theme tend to attract the masses, and as the masses are largely clueless, you get a lot of clueless behaviour.
There are some very small networks that are even more prone to doing stupid things when something comes up that doesn't fit their worldview - e.g. Christian/Religious networks... but on the whole I avoid those like the plague so it's never a problem for me :)
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In short : so long as you go on a small network with reasonably clueful people, nothing like that should matter - and you should be treated exactly the same as anyone else. |
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pepolez
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Joined: 05 Oct 2004
Posts: 163
Location: IRC
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| Posted: Nov 12, 2004 8:48am Post subject: |
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Ok, its not my problem if you take offence to this post, but here goes..
I notice that on IRC, there is a fairly equal distribution of women, but on the smaller networks it is majorly one gender. I also notice women tend to chat more and are more likely to come back to visit while men are quiet and dont always come back. Overall, I would have to say that the distribution of men and women on a network varies greatly between networks.
Heh, guess my geneder  |
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Jedi Knight
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| Posted: Nov 13, 2004 3:47pm Post subject: |
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| I run a small network (teenirc.net). We've had our fair share of problems lately and have lost alot of users and staff. Roughly 6 months ago I remember there being an almost 1:1 ratio from males to females on my staff. Now it is just about all male because there are no females on the network. I don't ever really remember judging someone's experience or ability based on gender, but I see why it is done by alot of people. |
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jcle
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Joined: 11 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mar 11, 2005 12:02pm Post subject: RE: Female irc-ers |
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On some networks i've been on any status i was given users viewed it as "it's because shes female" instead of she earned it.. or anything like that. Then again it was a gaming network, and if you are a female the automatic opinion is either; your fat, your ugly, or you have no life.. which is cruel and entirely unfair.. I think alot of ircusers are just use to the norm, and automatically assume that each user is infact a male until told (or proven for that matter) otherwise.
Recently a friend of mine who is the wife of the owner of irc.gameaddix.net started a #lady-gamers channel for the purpose of filtering out all those irc idiots who have that unjust opinion about female irc users, and to filter out the typical horny males that harass you as soon as they find out that you are infact a female. It appears to be working out fairly well. We do allow males in our channel but not any that falls into the typical category. Makes the chatting a little better also  |
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jcle
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| Posted: Mar 11, 2005 12:15pm Post subject: friendships |
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| magpie wrote: | | AshleighJane wrote: | | magpie wrote: |
Incidentally, of the few women I've talked to online, I've always found their conversation to be stimulating. |
But would you agree that these stimulating chats come in a period of time ?, I tend to put a limit of 6 months in between building the friendship up first. |
Nope, not 6 months at least. Sure, it varies, but I don't think it's ever taken *that* long to have a stimulating conversation with somebody I've made the choice to get to know over IRC. If it did the likelyhood is that I'd simply get bored with them and move on (male or female). |
I've had stimulating conversations in hours of meeting someone, sometimes minutes. i run 3 #chat channels right now, im generally a chatty person, and also very open. some users disbelieve im female others shrug it off like its no big deal and talk to me as an equal. its defenately interesting, but defenately doesn't take anywhere near 6 months for me. |
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