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preacher
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2004 5:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought but those of use who have filled in our network information on here, can select network feactures like clean (meaning Network does not permit warez/file trading)

Maybe a feacture on the web pages that permits creation of lists based on those; you select network list with one of those feactures set. yes more coding, and more work at setting up, but in the end allows the user who is looking at the network list to see the kind of networks they want.....

Does that make any sense... Sorry running on caffiene the last few days

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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2004 1:16pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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can select network feactures like clean (meaning Network does not permit warez/file trading)

IMHO that is useless. It's like the police saying, "If you're a criminal, please give us your name and address so we can come arrest you." Every network is going to claim to be "clean," especially if they realize most SearchIRC users are filtering out their network!
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2004 1:57pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, the filtering,if any, should be well beyond the control of the network(s) your trying to filter.

By having a bot parse the channel list returned by scrawl looking for key channels, IMO, is a better solution. Then the only way to hide that your a warez based net is to hide your warez channels from clients (like that's going to happen! Very Happy) or ban scrawl completely so that your net is not indexed any farther, basiclly still keeping their net off the list.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2004 4:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the seperating between warez networks and normal networks! not total filtering of warez networks though, even though i hate warez on irc.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2004 4:23pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[DiMENSiON] wrote:
I agree with the seperating between warez networks and normal networks! not total filtering of warez networks though, even though i hate warez on irc.


If I'm following the conversation correctly. the idea is to allow the user a filter option during his/her search. Not to have SIRC totally ignore warez.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2004 4:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about an optional filter?

You filter all the networks as normal, but then you let users browsing the site choose if they see the filtered version or not.

Also, you should filter by both channel and network, seperately.

By this I mean that there should be an option to block warez channels, but still allow listing of the networks which host them, and a seperate option to block the networks which are mostly warez.

You could set thresholds too, like 'block network if X % of channels / users are warez-related".

This would both be useful for searchirc.com users, and it would also enable you do things like a parental control filter, say, if you diddn't want minors browsing channels related to porn or warez.

There are options here - and imho it would be good to make these options avalible, then log their usage. If a lot of users start using searchirc's warez-free list, then you can derrive from that the service is appreciated and needed. If they don't, you can drop it.

IMHO: create it, people would like it..... it would give more flexibility and a much needed filtering system.

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PostPosted: Sep 29, 2004 2:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a nice idea and i agree with it, still i doubt its that hassle-free to do...

lets pretend there are 5 warez-chans on a network... all of them are +s, so scrawl wont see them, still they are there... the network wont get listed as warez-network on searchirc, still it would get all the users (drones, scripts, ...) because it is listed on packetnews / ircspy.

so to make that listing here any reliable, scrawl would also have to check packetnews if the network is listed there, to be sure to have all facts right..
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PostPosted: Sep 29, 2004 4:24pm    Post subject: e Reply with quote

its not about taking out the LITTLE networks that are MAINLY chat and 1 or 2 +s warez chans. The whole point would be to list or not list the warez networks that are 99% warez. Where the larger chans WILL not set there chans to +s.

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PostPosted: Sep 29, 2004 6:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone claimed the system to be perfect. But it would catch probably 95% of the warez networks. The porn filters on Google are not perfect either, but that didn't cause Google to delete them.
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PostPosted: Sep 29, 2004 11:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to see this on searchirc. Personally I believe IRC shouldn't be used for warez, xdcc, etc. but for what it was intended for. Hope this could really become more of an option.
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PostPosted: Sep 30, 2004 6:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You filter all the networks as normal, but then you let users browsing the site choose if they see the filtered version or not.


This is what I've been trying to say, appearently with failure.

To be completely fair I think that the filter should filter everything. IF you don't want to list nets with anime .. click the box .. if you don't want to see nets with more than 5000 users .. click a box .. if you only want to see warez networks .. click all the boxes except warez ... etc
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PostPosted: Sep 30, 2004 8:01am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A search category system?
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PostPosted: Sep 30, 2004 9:07am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the network listing already have network features/types .. why not allow us to filter those types out.

Example being that Anime is one such type. If I wanted to list networks that was not anime I should be able to place a check in a box next to anime and filter the output of my search.

The anime nets are still listed and indexed I just told the search script that I didn't want to view those nets.
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PostPosted: Oct 03, 2004 6:53pm    Post subject: ddd Reply with quote

yes yes yes

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PostPosted: Oct 03, 2004 7:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

katsklaw wrote:
The anime nets are still listed and indexed I just told the search script that I didn't want to view those nets.

Exactly, the only difference would be that the netadmins set their network as "anime." "warez" would be set by SearchIRC.
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