Listing of IRC networks ( suggestion )

v0rtex · Lurker Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 107 Location: IRC

I really hope that something is done about this ever increasing problem. Crack dow on warez networks and then 50% of irc networks would be gone! mx-distro gigaIRC rizon etc etc. Is there any way that Search IRC could do a non-warez network list - so people can see the REAL networks. Surely it cannot be that hard to code a bot that finds the 'tell tail' sighs of warez chans, and removes them from a 'REAL' irc network listing. Stop smothering search-irc with the 'WE LOVE WAREZ - WE HAVE TWO REAL USERS THAT ARE NETADMINS' networks.

Ok.. so what i am proposing... that would make the site better in my view.. is that there is a divide in searches Warez|warez free/All. This would stop there being the Top 4 and so on.

Would it be too hard to code a bot as mentioned above?

it is a suggestion Smile

v0rtex

codemastr · Idler Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 345

I agree something like that would be nice, and you're right, it probably shouldn't be too hard. The searchirc bot does a /list. So, if like 80% of the channels are warez, and 80% of the users are in those channels (e.g., warez channels have 100+ users and the other channels have 5 users), then the server could be marked as a "mostly" warez network. I'd like this too, it'd be nice to actually only search networks I care about rather than all these lame warez nets.

katsklaw · Posted: Sep 25, 2004 1:07pm Post subject:

I'll be third to agree to this.

Proto · Lurker Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 148 Location: IRC

JohnB · Posted: Sep 25, 2004 4:58pm Post subject:

the problem would be maintaining the list....

we would need to check every network...urgh!

it would be nice but from a staff point of view...no ta lol

JohnB
SearchIRC.com staff

katsklaw · Posted: Sep 25, 2004 5:28pm Post subject:

then how about a warez net type and a net type search filter?

v0rtex · Lurker Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 107 Location: IRC

ok.. how about a bot that checked for anything xdcc or bot /warez related surely this cannot beTHAT hard to find.. maybe this would take a little searching for warez nets by the search irc team... well.. increase it then!!!! some one has to force change... stop going with MAJORITY and start going with the MINORITY.... let search irc be first... if you are looking for more site admins then i am sure 100/s of people would apply. PLEASE dont follow the crowd because of your own user gain.! do what is RIGHT! catagorizse warez and non-warez networks - get rid of this illusion f the TOP 4 NETWORKS - becasue! without wares.. MOST of these networks would not exist.. and contrary to what you say... makng a bot that reconiseds xdcc/bot/warez chan types cannot really be that hard, this world is MADE up by the people who create searchirc etc and CAN be changed by these people alse!

v0rtex

Willaim · Idler Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 321 Location: IRC

I think it would be setup so that someone submits their network as being warez free, it's then added to a 'queue'. After awhile a human goes and makes sure it has no warez, then if so, adds it to the 'good networks'

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Jason · Posted: Sep 26, 2004 3:59am Post subject:

I could easily add a filter to look for specific warez keywords and channels with >N users to mark a network as warez...

But as has been seen in the past, if you do this, some of those networks will complain, and eventually this will lead to DoS attacks. Additionally, it would be easy to just not list warez networks, but then SearchIRC is no longer SearchIRC. We intentionally list warez networks, even though we don't agree with what they are doing. We intentionally treat them just as any other network listed. However, things such as the 'largest channel' page which used to be on our front page, have been moved elsewhere so as to not emphasize them.

Our goal remains the same as when SearchIRC was started - to present the users with IRC, all the good, and all the bad.

magpie · Idler Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Essex, UK

Warez isn't IRC though, imho. Given it was designed for chat, I don't see how removing networks dedicated to the sharing of illegal material detracts from SearchIRC in any way.

zeke · Idler Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 334

much like the internet wasn't designed for porn, or tv wasn't created for adults-only programmes. should they be removed just because it wasn't intended for it? things have a way of developing. Some things improve, others degenerate. Warez is as much a part of IRC now, as the Boy-bands (and girlbands) are a part of the music industry. We can only hope that both phases will eventually end...i doubt it tho.

w00t · Posted: Sep 26, 2004 6:47am Post subject:

If you remember, the internet was originally designed exclusivly for military purposes... "Wow, boobies of mass-distraction!"

v0rtex · Lurker Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 107 Location: IRC

zeke - i am not disputing that warez is a part of irc now. I am however saying that these larger warez networks get enough publicity off other sites ( namely ircspy and packetnews ), when the real irc networks are set in the background a little ( searchirc publicity could drive hundreds of users to a network ) . The BIG 4 would not exist so publicly. and search IRC would loose all the bigger nets that have 5000 users plus listed.

codemastr · Idler Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 345

Jason · Posted: Sep 26, 2004 5:09pm Post subject:

Sorry if you got the wrong impression, but that is exactly what it is. I ran the largest server on Undernet for many years and DoS attacks never bothered me. It is always a consideration, and that is why I mentioned it.